Interleaving is a choice, not an improvement
Assumes: The other half of the same window · The band a turns ratio holds over · The assumption that is a geometry
Interleaving a transformer — splitting each winding into sections and stacking them alternately rather than one on top of the other — is the standard cure for leakage inductance, and it works. The inductance that is a shape measured what it is worth on a real window rather than in the expression usually quoted, and found it worth a factor of three rather than the four that is always claimed.
That essay could not say what it costs, because pricing the cost needs the window’s other parameter and the other half of the same window is where that parameter came from. With both solved on the same cross-section, on the same cells, the trade can be read in both currencies at once — which turns out to be necessary, because the two move in opposite directions and neither moves the way the count suggests.
What the count actually buys
Take a six-layer primary and a six-layer secondary and split them into one, two, three and six sections. The leakage falls hard: 8.399 microhenries a metre, then 2.384, 1.184, and 0.393 — a factor of 21.4 across the sweep, and 3.52 for the first split alone.
That last sentence is the whole mechanism of the cost, and it is worth stating as arithmetic rather than as a warning. One section puts one interface between the two windings. Two sections put three. Three sections put five, and six sections put eleven. Each interface is the same area of the same insulation at the same separation, so each is worth the same capacitance.
So the two headline numbers are a division by 21.4 and a multiplication by 11.0, and a designer who has only ever seen the first of them is working with half the arithmetic.
The reduction is not the one the count predicts either
Before the cost is priced it is worth checking the benefit, because the benefit has a closed form that is quoted as confidently as the cure itself and it is wrong in the same direction every time.
Splitting into p sections is said to divide the leakage inductance by p², and the reasoning is clean: the magnetomotive force in the window builds to 1/p of its full height instead of to all of it, the energy goes as the square of the field, and there are p portions of it. Against this window’s own solves that expression is high at every count and increasingly so.
Two sections measure 3.52 against a predicted 4, which is 13.5 per cent optimistic. Three measure 7.09 against 9, 26.9 per cent. Six measure 21.4 against 36, and the expression is now 68.4 per cent high. The error is not noise and it does not average out; it grows monotonically with the thing the expression is being used to justify.
The reason is the same one the assumption that is a geometry found in the loss expression, arriving in the other parameter. The p² argument assumes the field is parallel to the layers and confined between them, so that dividing the stack divides the field height cleanly. Every section boundary is a place where that assumption is least true — the field has to turn round there, it does so through the insulation and the end regions, and the energy in those turns is not divided by anything. More sections means more boundaries, so the part of the energy the expression cannot see is a larger share of a smaller total each time.
Which puts the benefit and the cost on the same footing. The reduction is real and large and 68 per cent smaller than advertised; the cost is real, large, and not advertised at all.
The product barely moves, and it is the product that sets the frequency
Neither number is what a circuit responds to. A leakage inductance in series with an interwinding capacitance is a resonance, and a resonance depends on the product. This is the same reduction two numbers are a frequency and an impedance makes: of all the ways two reactive quantities could combine, a circuit only ever forms their product and their ratio.
The product across the sweep goes 7,785, 6,630, 5,487, 4,004 in units of microhenry-picofarads. It falls by a factor of 1.94 while its two factors move by 21.4 and 11.0 in opposite directions. Turned into the quantity a data sheet would print, the resonance moves from 1.804 megahertz to 2.515 — thirty-nine per cent, for a winding operation that changes the whole construction of the part, adds interconnections, and makes it harder to insulate.
That is the finding, and it is why the slope of −0.78 on the trade plane matters. A line of constant product has slope −1. Interleaving runs at −0.78, close enough to that diagonal that most of what it does is move energy from one store to the other rather than reduce the total. It is nearly a lateral move in the only plane where the two quantities can be compared.
Thickening the interlayer is not. The same plane shows it running at −4.8 — steeply across the diagonals rather than along them — and moving the product by 5.2 over its sweep, against interleaving’s 1.94. By the measure that decides the band edge it is the better action by a factor of nearly three, and it is the one nobody describes as a technique. It is not free either: the millimetre it spends is a millimetre of window that is not copper, and the copper that makes it worse is about what happens to a winding’s losses when its copper is squeezed.
What interleaving does change, by a factor of fifteen
If the product barely moves, the ratio must move a great deal, and it does. The characteristic impedance √(L/C) of this winding goes 95.19 ohms at one section to 6.21 at six — a factor of 15.3, monotone, and by far the largest effect interleaving has on anything.
That is not a curiosity. Below the resonance a transformer is a turns ratio; above it, it is a piece of transmission line, and this is the impedance of that line. Every fast disturbance that arrives at a winding — a switching edge, a discharge, the common-mode step the millimetre that becomes common mode is about — is divided between the source and this impedance, and dropping it from 95 ohms to 6 changes what the winding does with such a disturbance far more than the 39 per cent change in the frequency does.
An interleaved transformer is therefore not a less parasitic transformer. It is a differently parasitic one: much stiffer, much more tightly coupled at high frequency, and much better at passing a common-mode edge straight through from one winding to the other. Whether that is an improvement depends entirely on which of those a design is failing on, which is exactly the shape of question every model has an edge is written about — the same change is a repair in one variable and a defect in another, and the only way to tell is to have both.
The screen, and where its bill arrives
The standard answer to interwinding capacitance is an electrostatic screen: an earthed foil in each primary-to-secondary interface, thin enough to fit inside insulation that had to be there anyway. It does exactly what it is sold as doing.
And then the bill arrives on a different line. A screen does not abolish a displacement current; it redirects one, and the current it redirects has to have somewhere to go and something to leave from. The primary now faces an earthed plate at the range its neighbour used to be at — 2,460 picofarads a metre to the screen alone — so the primary’s own self-capacitance rises from 1,364 to 2,655 picofarads a metre, and the equivalent capacitance the terminals present goes up, 1,980 to 3,422.
The pair of those figures is the argument in its sharpest form. Interleaving and screening are both described as improvements, they are routinely specified together, and applied together on this window they take the winding-to-winding capacitance to a fiftieth of a screened single section while multiplying the capacitance the circuit actually sees by fifty. Neither technique is at fault. What is at fault is that each is quoted in the currency it improves.
Which capacitance the answer is in
That last paragraph is only meaningful because the two capacitances are different quantities, and it is worth saying plainly which is which, because a bridge reads a third thing again.
Winding to winding is what a screen and an isolation specification are about: the displacement current that crosses from one circuit to the other, which is a safety and an interference quantity and has nothing to do with the transformer’s own response.
At the terminals is what the circuit sees: the single capacitance that, put across the winding, stores the same energy at the same terminal voltages. That is the one in series with the leakage inductance, the one that sets the resonance, and the one that loads whatever drives the winding.
They are computed from the same solved potential and they move in opposite directions under both of the actions above. A screen divides the first by 182 and multiplies the second by 1.73. Interleaving multiplies the first by 11.0 and divides the second by 5.5. There is no arrangement of this window in which both are small, and the question a design has to answer first is which of the two it is failing on — a measurement condition being part of the answer, exactly as it is in the capacitance that is not one number.
The band edge, computed rather than fitted
There is a way to check all of this against something the collection already measured independently, and it is worth doing because it is the only external check available.
The band a turns ratio holds over measures a transformer’s two band edges from the netlist and finds the lower one nearly immovable while the upper one moves by three decades with the coupling. That upper edge is where the leakage inductance and the winding’s own capacitance stop being negligible against the load — and until both could be computed from the cross-section, the capacitance in that model was a number chosen to make the model fit rather than a property of the part.
It is now a property of the part, and it moves the way the arrangement says it should: 1.804 megahertz at one section, 1.955 at two, 2.149 at three, 2.515 at six. That the numbers are close together is the finding restated — but they are now predictions from a geometry rather than parameters, and a prediction that barely moves is a much stronger statement than a parameter that was never varied.
It also says something about which of the two edges a designer should expect to be able to shift. What coupling buys and where found the same asymmetry from the circuit side: the two ends of a transformer’s band are not equally available, and effort spent on the one that does not move is effort spent. Interleaving is that effort in its most concentrated form.
What the crossing capacitance is in amperes
The winding-to-winding number is easiest to feel as a current, because that is what it is: a displacement current that leaves one circuit and arrives in the other, and it is the quantity a common-mode measurement reads.
An edge of ten volts a nanosecond across 926.9 picofarads a metre draws 9.27 amperes per metre of turn while the edge lasts. Interleaved into six sections it is 102 amperes a metre. Screened, it is 51 milliamperes a metre at one section and 469 at six. Those are not small numbers arrived at by exaggeration — ten volts a nanosecond is an ordinary edge, and the four arrangements span a factor of two thousand in what crosses.
The current has to return, and where it returns is not in this cross-section at all. It goes out through whatever earth the far circuit has and comes back through whatever earth the near one has, which is the loop where the current comes back is about — and that essay’s finding is that the return path is chosen by the geometry rather than by the schematic, at a frequency the geometry decides.
That is the practical reason the two capacitances have to be kept separate rather than added. The terminal capacitance is a load: it draws current from the winding’s own driver, round a loop the designer drew. The winding-to-winding capacitance is a leak: it draws current round a loop nobody drew, through an earth system whose impedance is not in any model of the transformer. A part whose terminal capacitance is five times too large is slow. A part whose crossing capacitance is five times too large fails a measurement in a chamber, and the arrangement that fixes the first makes the second worse.
Where the energy went
One more reading explains why the capacitance counts interfaces so exactly, and it is the one that says the result is not an artefact of this particular window.
At one section, 56.5 per cent of the electric energy is in the enamel between adjacent foils of the same winding and 32.3 per cent in the interlayer tape between the two windings. At six sections there are almost no adjacent same-winding layers left to have enamel between them, and 63.9 per cent of what remains is in air. The total energy at one volt falls from 0.990 to 0.180 nanojoules a metre even as the winding-to-winding capacitance rises elevenfold, because the two quantities are answers to different questions asked of the same field.
That is the reconciliation, and it is a check rather than a story: the interface count, the terminal capacitance and the energy distribution are three readings of one solve and they have to be consistent, which they are.
What this does not say
It does not say interleaving is a mistake. A converter whose switching loss is set by leakage inductance has a real problem that interleaving really solves, and 21.4 is a large number. It says that the reason usually given — that it reduces the parasitics — is not what it does, and that a design which interleaves to fix a resonance has bought 39 per cent for a great deal of work.
It does not extend to three dimensions, and the end regions of a real winding are where an interleaved construction is hardest and where its interconnections live.
And it does not price the safety constraint, which is often what decides the arrangement before any of this arithmetic is reached. Reinforced insulation between primary and secondary is not negotiable and it is thick, which is the interlayer axis of the trade plane being set by something that is not a trade at all.
The number worth carrying
A division by 21.4 and a multiplication by 11.0 whose product is 1.94, and a characteristic impedance moved by 15.3 that nobody quotes.
The habit that goes with it is the one this rung exists for. Two parasitic quantities of the same object, computed by different people from different models, cannot be traded — and for as long as this collection had a solver for one of them and an expression for the other, every statement it could make about interleaving was a statement about half the answer. What made the trade computable was not a better model of either quantity. It was solving both on the same cells, so that the two numbers belong to one window rather than to two accounts of one.
The generalisation is worth stating because it is not about transformers. A technique acquires a reputation in the currency it was invented to fix, and then keeps that reputation in every other currency by default, because nobody who measures the first one is set up to measure the second. Interleaving was invented against leakage inductance and is excellent against leakage inductance. It is quoted as reducing parasitics, which is a different and false claim, and the only thing that separates the two is a second solve of a cross-section somebody had already meshed.
Part 2 on winding capacitance
One argument about Winding capacitance, and one of 2 essays on it so far, each part numbered by how much of the idea it assumes. What sits either side of it:
The objects named here
The third axis, after the field and the idea: the things themselves, and every essay that touches each one.
Characteristic impedanceDesign tradeoffEnergy-storageField solutionInterwinding capacitanceLeakage inductanceMeasurement conditionModel rangePermittivityReturn current
- The edges that are lengths design tradeoff, measurement condition, model range, return current
- A boundary is a model and a tolerance design tradeoff, measurement condition, model range
- Terminated at both ends characteristic impedance, design tradeoff, model range
- The cable that hides two things design tradeoff, measurement condition, model range
- The coefficient that is about one reading design tradeoff, measurement condition, model range
- The degrees a thermocouple cannot see design tradeoff, measurement condition, model range